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Official Discussion - The Wandering Earth [SPOILERS]

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Summary:

When the human race discovers that the sun is dying out they band together to create giant planet thrusters to move Earth out of its orbit and to sail it to a new star system. However 17 years into the 2,500 year journey unexpected perils will require a few brave people held together by fate the band together to save the Earth and the human race from almost certain destruction.

Director:

Frant Gwo

Writers:

screenplay by Gong Geer, Junce Ye, Yan Dongxu, Frant Gwo, Yang Zhixue

based on the short story by Cixin Liu

Cast:

  • Qu Chuxiao as Liu Qi

  • Li Guangjie as Wang Lei

  • Ng Man-tat as Han Zi'ang

  • Zhao Jinmai as Han Duoduo

  • Wu Jing as Liu Peiqiang

  • Arkady Sharogradsky as Makarov

  • Mike Sui as Tim

  • Qu Jingjing as Zhou Qian

  • Zhang Yichi as Li Yiyi

  • Yang Haoyu as He Lianke

  • Li Hongchen as Zhang Xiaoqiang

  • Yang Yi as Yang Jie

  • Jiang Zhigang as Zhao Zhigang

  • Zhang Huan as Huang Ming


Rotten Tomatoes: ?

Metacritic: ?

After Credits Scene? No


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level 1

It exceeded my expectation. Story telling is sometimes confusing. But I am told that the original movie includes the story of rebels on the ground and Liu Qi was planning to join them. The rescue team was robbed by rebels. This explains everything now like why Liu Qi wanted to go out and why rescue team has guns. I hate the deletion. But the movie would be too long if it includes everything. It has already put too many things into 2 hours.

level 2

Interesting choice of words in “rebels”.

What we’re they rebelling against? I’m sure life wasn’t great in the underground cities but we didn’t really see anything in the way of oppression from the government. I feel like they would have come off more as terrorists without anything to establish them as sympathetic figures.

level 3

in the books, rebels are those who believed the sun is absolutely fine, and the wandering earth project is a big conspiracy theory so that the United Earth Government can grab power. Many people joined the rebels because sun didn’t show any sign of decay after they left

level 3

At the beginning, the movie says not everyone can enter underground cities. Many are left on the ground. I guess those may lead to rebels/terrorists or whatever. I will wait for the full version.

level 1
4 points · 1 day ago · edited 22 hours ago

Saw it a few days ago. I went in only knowing it was a sci-fi movie about saving the Earth by moving it. Just some random thoughts/questions/nitpicks (possible spoilers incoming):

  • Overall I liked it. It surprised me in good and bad ways. If the concept and settings weren't so cool I probably would have disliked it.

  • I was kinda bored and annoyed with some of the characters for the first hour but got really hooked with the last hope plan. I wish they spent more time developing the kids.

  • Way too much robot voices just explaining everything that's happening. I assume this was done to make it easier to distribute in multiple languages. The things it explains I can imagine are hard to translate but they should have just had the actors talk and used the robot subtitles.

  • The CGI goes from awesome Hollywood-grade to literally worse than Playstation 3 levels. With some scenes it was literally dropping frames (I honestly couldn't tell if it was just the projection or if they rendered the scene at 20fps).

  • Were the special ops guys carrying guns just for the trailer? I thought there was going to be aliens or monsters or something. Though it was almost worth it for the guy unloading on Jupiter.

  • Weirdly edited and totally awkward comedy bits inserted in the middle of tense action scenes? I assume that's just a Chinese thing.

  • When they kept referring to the girl as the sister I thought it was just a relationship word that didn't translate clearly into English. Nope, they just waited until halfway in to explain her backstory.

  • Is there some significance to Li Yiyi's dice? Do they say something or are they literally just dice? I feel like they draw a lot of attention to them but I couldn't figure out why.

  • At the end when Tim jumps off the platform to save Liu Qi, I swear he screams "Fuck this shit!" but the subtitles just say "Ah!". Anyone else catch this? Maybe he said something in Chinese that I misheard? I thought that was great. He totally redeemed his annoyingness and uselessness.

level 2

Yep, he said fuck this shit as he jumped off, that was a major hype moment for me.

I am in the same boat as you, I HATED the movie until the jupiter explosion plan happened, the grandpa and the sister are completely pointless characters and the sister's dumbass speech pissed me off beyond imagination. Other than that the main char went from a dumbass to pretty alright.

level 2

I wanted to see if anyone else thought Tim said "fuck this shit!" too, lol...yeah, I think he did.

level 2
6 points · 1 day ago · edited 1 day ago

Regarding the guns, this is revolving the rebel forces that oppose the UEG. The rebels don't believe the sun's going to explode, they think this whole thing is just UEG trying to grasp more power. It's not explained in the film (or it was but got cut - we'll have to wait for the director's cut to find out), but: ① there is a banner above ground that says ''overturn UEG'' or something; ② at the end of the movie some people in the underground city are chanting ''give back our sun''. These were not translated though, so you might miss it if you don't know Chinese. But anyway, this explains why they can't store lighter cores near the engines (cuz rebels would destroy them), why they have to escort the cores with weapons (there might be rebel attack), and why Li Yiyi was so scared when he was found by the rescue team (he thought they were rebels). This hidden subplot might be useful if it gets a sequel.

I agree the girl's backstory was way too late. But maybe they expected us to assume they were biological siblings at first in order to make a twist on it? At least this is a default assumption in China. Anyway, this backstory actually ties to the beginning of the movie. They sneaked out because Duoduo wanted to find her biological parents in Shanghai. You know, being with family, the Chinese New Year spirit. But again this explanation was cut, making the movie a tiny bit more confusing.

I was wondering about Li's dice too. Thought they may become of important use at some critical point. But they didn't. I guess it might be just part of his character - a nerd archetype, perhaps.

And yes, the helmet vomit is purely of comedic purpose, nothing important. Though later on we see Tim wearing a tainted helmet, indicating the vomit guy successfully snatched his helmet.

level 1

Pretty good movie, but the subtitles were rough.

level 1

This movie was amazing and I strongly recommend seeing it. Great world building, and it felt like an original idea for sci-fi in the movies for once. I've never seen anything like this and done so well.


There was plenty of good chinese comedy, but I know that much of that must be reflective of chinese cultural and western audiences won't catch all of it. I went with my girlfriend, so she explained some things to me. There was also no love story, and that was SO REFRESHING for a sci-fi movie. There's plenty of emotion between the action, and I almost cried a couple of times. They do a really great job of expressing tragedy.


I hope that, following this, they will make Three Body Problem into a movie. It's such a bizarre plot but the team that made this movie can definitely handle it.

level 1

Yeah this is essentially just a Chinese version of Armageddon, less cheesy love story stuff though. Fun watch, pretty formulaic, but a nice spectacle.

level 1
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level 2

even in the future the CCP is still in charge

No comments about other movies emphasising how even in the future US government is still in charge?

level 2

Some one has called you out on this, but seeing any generic Chinese writing as propaganda slogan - man you really have some deep bias and ignorance toward China..

Also, what's wrong with every country speaking their own language? Isn't that multiculturalism? Or do you wish everyone in the future all speak...... English?

It's not that Chinese doesn't do racial very well. Chinese doesn't do racial, period. It doesn't have to, and there's nothing wrong with it. Race is a big issue in US and self-absorbed as the US always is, it thinks now the whole world has to deal with race as the US does. Please kindly get over yourself.

level 2
7 points · 1 day ago

everything related to China has to be tagged CCP, government. democracy. even a sci fi movie. seriously, give China a break.

level 3

seriously, give China a break.

How about China gives its people a break from oppression for a change?

level 3
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level 4
3 points · 1 day ago

Whomever is making the movie gets to tell it how they want to tell it. We've seen the US do this for years and years. Now China can produce Blockbusters where they show they are nationalistic, I don't see how that's any different from Western movies. Why hold them to a different standard when Hollywood has portrayed Russia, the middle east, Asia etcetc as the enemies and the Americans, of course the hero. We get to do it, they should too. Their money.

level 5
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level 6
3 points · 1 day ago

Who said "we" included you? To clarify, it didn't. You aren't judging by the same standard because you are criticizing how Chinese people portray themselves in their own movies, and how they portray other countries and nationalities. Before you even go there, you have thousands of Western films to criticize first. Let them portray their nationalism however they want. The West gets to.

level 7
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level 8
3 points · 1 day ago

No one is baiting you. My point is if you critique foreign films and you're going to add in criticism about how they portray nationalism then it's only fair that you also do the same when reviewing Independence Day or Pacific Rim. Otherwise calling that out only in foreign films is just ethnocentric.

Homogeniety? Beijing was filled with Chinese people. Makes sense to me -- just like how the Blade Runner universe is visually Asian, with no Asian people. Sure.

Yes I did see the film. It was entertaining most of the time but it goes onto the shelf as a pretty fluff piece with awkward editing at points. Not sure if the author is completely satisfied with how it turned out even though he worked on it. Besides that - not too deep a film since it's basically 5 films in one.

level 1

I liked the film, would give it a solid 8. Like someone had mentioned already, it did seem like the best parts of a bunch of sci-fi films mashed together.

One question though. Why did the female spec ops soldier destroy the lighter load? Like she got frustrated that they were arguing and then decided to destroy one of the means of saving mankind?

Then I found it funny that the main character just then shows up with a new one.

level 2
10 points · 1 day ago

The core she destroyed was for Hang Zhou, which was already gone. Wang had a emotional break down because his wife and child just died in Hang Zhou, so he insisted on delivering the core to Hang Zhou anyway. The core needed battery to stay warm and functional, that's why one of the engineer died right before this scene took place because he was using his battery to keep the core warm. Liu, the female, was the medic for the team, you can tell from the equipment she wore and the eight heart stickers she put on her chest armor (probably the number of lives she had saved). If they kept going, more people from the team would die, and they would not be able to save anyone in Hang Zhou anyway.

level 3

Thanks! I wasn't sure why she did it except that the mission was somehow already impossible, you cleared it up for me. This movie had a lot of world building in it, I need to watch it again for those details.

level 1
1 point · 2 days ago · edited 2 days ago
level 2
6 points · 2 days ago

The engine warmed the surrounding air up just enough for him to survive + immediate rescue. You can tell at the end of the movie that he has severe frostbite scar on his right cheek.

level 3

that makes sense, I really thought Tim sacrificed himself by giving MC his helmet

level 3

Is the lack of oxygen not a more immediate factor?

level 4
7 points · 1 day ago

There was still oxygen in the air (that's how they are able to light Jupiter up), it is just too cold for human to breath, but that's not a problem near the engine as the engine warms the surrounding air up. One of the scenes in the begenining also shows a moat like water body around one of the engines, suggesting the ambient temperature around the engine is at least above 32F.

level 1
8 points · 2 days ago

I thought this was a futurama movie based on the tab

level 1
11 points · 2 days ago

Is anyone else really wanting a bunch of desktop backgrounds of Earth travelling through space? The CGI may have been bad at parts, but all of those silent scenes of Earth propelling itself through the galaxy were beautiful. The first image of it with the title screen gave me chills - and I didn't even see it in IMAX.

I guess we'll have to wait for a Blu-ray before we can get anything high-resolution enough :(

level 2

There are plenty posters/art roaming on Chinese social media, both from the official account and from fans. I'm looking at Weibo and there are at least hundreds of TWE related posters/drawings. But yeah high-res ones (or if you want that scene specifically) we probably need to wait until digital comes out. Or maybe try the trailers?

level 1

This movie shows the differences between Chinese and Western culture.

What does the Westerners do to overcome the decay of Sun? They launch spacecraft into outer space, in hope to search for another habitable planet and restart humanity there.

What does the Chinese do? We move our home (Earth) to other space.

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