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Official Discussion: Velvet Buzzsaw [SPOILERS]

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Summary:

After a series of paintings by an unknown artist are discovered, a supernatural force enacts revenge on those who have allowed their greed to get in the way of art.

Director:

Dan Gilroy

Writers:

screenplay by Dan Gilroy

Cast:

  • Jakey Bear as Morf Vandewalt

  • Rene Russo as Rhodora Haze

  • Toni Collette as Gretchen

  • Zawe Ashton as Josephina

  • Tom Sturridge as Jon Dondon

  • Natalia Dyer as Coco

  • Daveed Diggs as Damrish

  • Billy Magnussen as Bryson

  • John Malkovich as Piers


Rotten Tomatoes: 70%

Metacritic: 61/100

After Credits Scene? No

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level 1

I just watched this movie randomly, knowing nothing about it. Started out thinking it was a quirky, farcical comedy... then it slowly turned into a b-movie.

This is the weird shit I'm here for. I thought it was really fun. Loved the visuals.

level 1
2 points · 8 hours ago

This was just... not very good at all. Didnt this guy direct nightcrawler? Wtf happened.

level 1
2 points · 10 hours ago

I hated this

level 1

This made me think "Are You Afraid of the Dark?" kind of movie. Not awful but not amazing. Worth a watch, for sure.

level 1

Got to see Jake Gyllenhaal's ass, 7/10.

level 1
8 points · 2 days ago

Honestly, I liked this a LOT more than I expected. It's a fun takedown of the commercial art world and I enjoyed that a lot.

level 1

cool concept, bad execution. Felt like a student film at times. I really liked the universe and characters but they needed a better adventure

level 1
5 points · 2 days ago

If you watch this high, it's awesome.

Completely sober? Kinda meh.

level 2

I watched it high, it was kinda meh

level 3
2 points · 2 days ago · edited 2 days ago

About to watch it high, will tell you about it :D Edit: Bordering between kinda meh and bad.

level 4

Yeah lol you see what I mean?

level 1

Made it about 15 minutes. What a boring movie. And the acting was so strange I couldn’t tell if it was intentional or bad.

level 2
2 points · 2 days ago

The first third or so is all set up. it changes quite a bit.

level 1

Literally only watched this for Jake Gyllenhaal. It seemed...messy? Like it was less of a thriller and more just watching people die one at a time.

level 2

Yeah, I felt there was no real reason to kill the characters off other than they just need to solidify that the demon/spirit/WhateverThaFuk deems them evil.


I also really disliked the fact that they just outright spelled out what was happening about 5 minutes after I'm sure most viewers were able to put it together. It left a bid of a salty poo flavour on my tongue, while trying to enjoy the cheesecake of decentness that was the hoboman v Jakey Bear fight.


I saw the trailer and i feel like it gave me the wrong impression. I should've known it would've been another weird gyllenhall movie

which is fine, it's just mismarketed

level 3

Was it spelled out? Yes we immediately got that the art was cursed. We got that from the trailer. But you get to the end and what do we learn? Nothing. It never goes deeper than that.

This movie has big problems with Chekhov's gun. Why do we learn about Velvet Buzzsaw at all? Is the blonde lady's collector boss someone important? Oh no, while questioning the janitor we find out someone has hired a PI, this will really change Jake Gyllenhaal's arc...oh wait, it has zero impact.

Great setup without a payoff.

level 1

This movie was all over the place but I still am glad I gave it a shot. Here are my takeaways.

First, Jake Gyllenhaal continues to be the rare living actor who by himself can draw me to a movie. I cannot think of another actor who could have pulled some of the moves he did in this movie that I would have enjoyed or bought as much.

Second, total bitch older Rene Russo roles are more than welcome to become a regular thing. That woman ages like a fine wine (or Anne Bancroft) and I enjoyed seeing her take on this complex character. More, please.

The Natalia Dyer character Coco quietly became one of the most interesting to me because of her presence soon after the scenes of so many deaths of people she knew professionally. I kept wondering if she somehow were going to be revealed to be aiding or otherwise complicit in the murders - or at least accused of so being - and, even though that turned out not to be the case, I still laughed and enjoyed her frustrated response to the third corpse she found.

Finally, Netflix remains my unintentional go-to source for bare man ass. (Altered Carbon is the benchmark on this score.) Would someone please direct me to an equally reliable source for bare lass ass?

level 2

bare lass ass?

HBO

level 1

Live in LA. Hang around musicians, dancers, actors, composers, but at a college level. I don’t know a ton of these types, but I think I was able to appreciate these people much more than a lot of the slasher fans did. For the people who say the acting is bad, did you not see Toni Colette???

The film was a good look into the caricatures of the LA Art world. But there was a little bit of methodology - and maybe some symbolism - for the deaths.

The movie is about a man who wanted his art to be destroyed because he made the art for himself or people who would appreciate it, not because it was evil and had to be destroyed before it killed, and it wasn’t cursed to get revenge on an art world that shunned him, like slasher film fans would probably assume, but because he literally put himself into his art. Later someone says art needs to be seen to be appreciated and I believe it was the character who was killed by paint before she could see it coming. Renee Russo was killed when she finally lost all appreciation of art and the instrument of her death was the tattoo of the pink band she once loved but became embarrassed about. The three who lived, 1, the guy who stayed with his own art gallery, rather than selling out, 2, John Malkovich who was having the artist version of writer’s block, and had the best line in the movie (The one about gestation), and also let his art be swept away by the sea and seen by not even himself, but the heavens, and 3, the girl who realized the art world wasn’t for her after seeing what it did to everyone. She witness half the deaths, or came across their bodies. In the end, the deadly paintings ended up being sold for $5 to people who would appreciate them for what they were.

The film is about the art world not being about art, but being about who made the art. As with the theatre world, becoming an artist is often about who you know, who your parents are, what the critics think of your work. Part of the resistance to Vivian Mair’s photography is that it was discovered by a nobody.

As for the horror parts? Bad. The fact that there were jump scare sections had me saying, “Wait. You think this is scary?” All of the deaths were signaled a mile away. They weren’t sudden or scary. They were, at best, unintentionally funny.

5/10 (Average)

level 1

This movie was a huge disappointment. I for some reason expected art and came away feeling like I wasted my time. I didn't care about any of the characters, nothing was done particularly well, not the music, not the acting, nothing too place in interesting places, the dialogue wasn't funny, the horror wasn't scary, it was like everything underperformed at every single level. What a joke. I guess 4/10?

level 1
11 points · 3 days ago

I find it quite hilarious the critiques we have here reflecting the snarky judgement of the characters in the movie. You have to giggle at the irony, lol. I axtually thought the movie was fine. I liked it. 7/10.

level 2

lmao how true, proving the movie right i guess in a way .

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