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Those in the UK: How has the media regarded the recent wave of exposed false sexual assault accusations?

Just wondering as I'm from the US and obviously don't have access to UK state television and news.

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10 points · 1 year ago · edited 1 year ago

The main media such as the BBC, HAVE mentioned it: somebody must have twisted their arms, or something, because I'm sure they must have been in pain to go as far as they did. As far as the press is concerned, the coverage has been more extensive, with the possible exception of The Guardian, which, once again, did as little as they could get away with. What you WILL notice if you read the newspapers that have allowed comments on the articles is that almost all commenters are appalled by what has been allowed to happen, and want female liars to be named and, indeed, brought to justice. Lawmakers are unlikely to give in to these demands, however, since they still fear the feminist lobby.

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Just to back this up the reporting on this has been relatively widespread in the UK the problem is it doesn't carry the same momentum as the #metoo movement because they are pumping out new accusations every few hours.

Some articles from the BBC

you can see a load of the related articles that go alongside this. You can find similar lists of stories from all the major news outlets and many more in newspapers.

The problem is Women have inward gender bias, they will always group together and believe and support eachother, men have an outward bias meaning they are predisposed to believe and support women so the counter-arguments to the #metoo movement begin at a point where only 20% of the population are even open to hearing them which is why the inconvenient truth about our gynocentric justice system isn't being picked up by society, its not the news outlets (they report the news but the more popular/interest there is in a subject is going to determine how long it stays in the news) or the government, the issue is the fact that the majority of society doesn't believe its an issue and until they do nobody in power is going to take meaningful action to rectify it.

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6 points · 1 year ago

DAs in UK are treated like women: Nah, its not abuse and collusion to suppress evidence and to pursue innocent men for evil purposes, its just incompetence!

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Them and the cops too.

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I should have added that The Guardian gave space to several of its feminist misandrist writers to explain why the problem of false allegations and corrupt police forces were - err - not a problem.

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9 points · 1 year ago

No. Nothing in the UK, it's just glossed-over and conveniently ignored.

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12 points · 1 year ago

We get a narrow view of all this on the men's rights sub. Judging from the articles here you'd think the scandal was shaking the foundations of British jurisprudence. You might even think it compared to MeTOO. You'd be wrong.

Men subjected to Kafkaesque nightmares, falsely imprisoned, police framing people and with-holding evidence, feminist bureaucrats pushing a non-existent rape epidemic -- those things are trivial compared to a celebrity getting touched on the leg or patted on the bum.

We literally care more about women's feelings than men's very lives.

Ladies and gentlemen -- the Patriarchy.

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4 points · 1 year ago

Technically correct, but I think it's worth pointing out that the media did just pretty much assume that everybody would be onboard with this bullshit. The media in the UK is a bit like a less shit version of the ones in Europe. When it comes to very contentious issues if they do report on them at all they immediately take a side and then act like there is no contradictory viewpoint.

Brexit is a classic example of this ( Yes I'm bringing it up ) the 'reporting' on the subject is atrocious and they frequently disable the comments pages so that people can't make the journalists defend their viewpoints. You guys in the U.S don't realise how lucky you have it in terms of free speech, whenever you have an issue you can have the constitution backing you up.

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the uk media is like a little bit less shit version of european and american media. Whilst american media boils down everything in 1-2 second soundbites with zero actual content, the european media cherry picks what sounds good to the establishment (depending on what sort of media story, either the status quo or the owners) and the uk... basically does that but a little bit better.

What the uk doesn't have is freedom of speech, so they shut down comments and tone police as a matter of course.

This means these stories do blow up, but they blow over unless it's thought to be a highly interesting story (like that girl who was kidnapped/murdered/raped/stolen by russians/etc maddy who we had to hear about for three years straight).

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1 point · 1 year ago · edited 1 year ago

that's really interesting... but america: N/A (lol, though I know it's extraterritorial)

actually taking a closer look at things, we have france at 39th, britain at 40th and america at 43rd. Other european states are better and worse, so... basically correct.

The thing is this talks about "press freedom" which isn't the same thing as "obeys corporate masters" -- ie quality of journalism.

Arguably american journalism quality is in the shitter and has been for a long time. We've seen a similar move towards yellow journalism in the UK, though it's often more ideological than corporate based... probably because corporate interests have ideological interests attached more than any other reason.

It's strange though, you'd think a country like the USA that prides itself on freedom would have a more free press rather than middle of the pack, but again, this index doesn't track freedom of the citizens to disagree with the press (comments, etc). There, America obviously wins versus germany (can put you in prison) and britain (can put you in prison)...

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Cops from all over the UK fill us in on the societal sensibilities regarding rape accusations.


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Original Poster1 point · 1 year ago

This is really, really good.

All it takes is a few cops to say something like this and we have a corroborated story about scandal to protect statistics in an attempt to prop up a facade of a healthy court system.

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It largely depends on the individual media outlet - whether they prefer sticking it to men in general (in which case expect minimal coverage) or sticking it to "the man" (in which case expect them to milk it for as much as they can until the next fuckup occurs).

What's most amusing (if you've got a dark sense of humour like mine) is where the media outlet is verging on the two buttons meme as to who is their preferred target - the Guardian being the classic headline "Why does police mishandling of evidence only make headlines in rape cases?". Er, because there were two that collapsed in court inside a week, and they're madly scrambling to make sure they haven't ignored the disclosure rules in another 30-40 that haven't made it to court yet.

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You could read about it online? From U.K media sources

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1 point · 1 year ago

We're too busy being caught up in acid attacks, stabbings, building fires and terrorism etc to care about what some women with daddy issues has to say.

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